From a Million Ideas to Two Growing Businesses
How a website project became a long-term business relationship.
Quick Answer
When I first got involved with Darren Frost, Suffolk Doors & Windows didn’t exist.
He had years of industry experience, a tremendous work ethic and about a million ideas about what he might do next. I became someone he could bounce those ideas off, helping bring clarity and organisation to his thinking before creating his first website.
That website began generating enquiries very quickly, many of which turned into work. When Darren launched Suffolk Roofline, he came back to me for the second website.
Several years later, we’re modernising the original site, still discussing new ideas, and already talking about his next venture.
The project at a glance
Client: Darren Frost — Suffolk Doors & Windows and Suffolk Roofline
Location: Sudbury, Suffolk
Sector: Doors, windows, roofline and home improvements
Starting point: An experienced tradesman developing a new business, with plenty of ideas but no established website or online presence
The project included:
- Early discussions to clarify ideas and priorities
- Business, customer and industry research
- Logo design for both companies
- Website planning, design and copywriting
- Search engine optimisation and online presence
- A second website for Suffolk Roofline as the business expanded
- Ongoing advice and a sounding board for new ideas
- Modernisation of the original Suffolk Doors & Windows website, now underway
The outcome:
Two business websites generating enquiries that turned into work, an ongoing relationship spanning several years, and plans to work together on Darren’s next venture.
Where It Started
Darren had recently left another double-glazing company and was using his industry contacts to sell mis-measured external doors. But he had much bigger ambitions for what he could build.
He had ideas... and lots of them!
He knew the industry extremely well, had experience across a wide range of work and could see opportunities everywhere. Our early conversations were as much about understanding what he wanted to achieve as they were about websites.
They weren’t formal consultancy meetings. Darren would throw ideas at me. I’d ask questions, challenge something occasionally, research things where necessary and help bring some clarity to what he was thinking.
As Darren puts it:
“I'm probably not the easiest person in the world to get ideas out of. I'll throw ten different thoughts at him, usually in completely the wrong order, change my mind halfway through and probably add another five while we're talking. Somehow he takes all that away and comes back with something clear and structured that actually makes sense.”
— Darren Frost
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That way of working has continued throughout our relationship.
Sometimes I’m simply the person saying, “That’s a good idea.”
Occasionally I’m probably the person saying, “Darren, perhaps not all of them at once.”
Turning the Ideas Into Something Customers Could Understand
Once I understood Darren’s experience and what he wanted the business to become, the next challenge was presenting it clearly to potential customers.
A customer doesn’t have Darren’s industry knowledge. They don’t know about the opportunities he’s spotted or all the ideas being discussed behind the scenes.
They need to understand:
- What the business does.
- Whether it can help them.
- What makes it different.
- Why they should trust it.
- What to do next.
That became the foundation of the Suffolk Doors & Windows website and online presence. I also designed the company’s logo, giving the new business a visual identity to build on.
The company was new, but Darren’s knowledge and experience weren’t. The website needed to communicate those strengths and give people the confidence to get in touch.
Darren remembers thinking that the original website perhaps made the company look a little bigger and better established than it actually was at the time.
My view was that it showed where the business was going.
The website wasn’t simply trying to describe the business as it was on launch day. It was designed to give customers confidence in the business Darren was building.
As Darren puts it:
“At the time, I remember thinking the website probably made us look a bit bigger and better than we actually were! David's view was that it showed where the business was going and that we were going to get there soon enough. To be fair to him, he was right.”
— Darren Frost
The Website Started Generating Business
The website began generating enquiries very quickly. But what Darren particularly noticed wasn’t simply that people were getting in touch... It was who was getting in touch.
“The website brought us a lot of business. What I particularly noticed was the quality of the enquiries. We didn't seem to get loads of people just fishing around or wasting our time. They generally knew what we did, were looking for those services and a lot of those enquiries turned into work.”
— Darren Frost
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For a small business, the important question isn’t simply how many people visit the website. It’s whether the right people find it, understand what the business offers and make contact.
Darren’s experience was that it was. The website had become a valuable source of business.
One Business Led to Another
As Suffolk Doors & Windows grew, Darren began developing another opportunity.
The result was Suffolk Roofline, a separate sister company.
He came back to me to talk through the ideas and build its website. By then, Darren knew how I worked, and I already understood his approach, his experience and the way he developed ideas.
In his words:
“By then it was a pretty easy decision who I was going to ask to help with it.”
— Darren Frost
Read Darren’s full testimonial in his own words →
That familiarity gave us a useful starting point, while the new business needed its own clear explanation of its services and what customers could expect.
I designed Suffolk Roofline’s logo and created its website and online presence, giving the sister company an identity of its own. Darren says the second website also started bringing in enquiries very quickly.
The first website hadn’t simply led to another project. It had led to Darren trusting me with another business.
More Than Websites and SEO
Darren still comes to me with ideas — usually several at once.
Sometimes they’re about websites, content or SEO. Sometimes they’re about a completely different business opportunity.
I’ll ask questions, research something that needs a closer look and suggest things he might not have considered.
In Darren’s words:
“He's also terrible for doing work you're not paying him for! He'll be researching something for the website and suddenly phone or message me because he's spotted something else that could help the business.”
— Darren Frost
That’s probably one of the better descriptions of how I tend to work.
I don’t deliberately set out to do work outside the brief. But once I’ve spent time understanding a business, its customers and what the owner is trying to achieve, it’s difficult not to point something out if I think it could help.
We’ve even been out for a meal a couple of times recently so Darren could talk through new ideas and projects and get my thoughts on which direction to take.
As he puts it:
“Some of the best conversations we've had haven't really been about websites at all.”
— Darren Frost
Read Darren’s full testimonial in his own words →
Coming Back to the Original Website
Several years after we first worked together, we’re now back where we started.
The original Suffolk Doors & Windows website has served the business well. But the company has developed so much, its priorities have changed and there is more completed work and expertise to demonstrate.
We’re reviewing what is already there and identifying:
- What should stay.
- What needs improving.
- Which services need more attention.
- What customers need to know.
- How the website can support the next stage of the business.
That includes the service content, supporting articles, imagery, internal links and the route from arriving on the website to making an enquiry, alongside the technical details that support it.
The objective is straightforward:
Bring the website up to the standard of the business it now represents.
The journey so far:
Early ideas → First website → Strong enquiries & sales → Suffolk Roofline → Second website → Strong enquiries & sales → Original website being modernised → Planning for the next venture
A Working Relationship That Has Continued to Grow
The part I value most is the continuity.
I was there to bounce ideas around near the beginning. Darren came back when he launched his second business. He’s come back again to modernise the original website.
And we’re still discussing what he might do next.
Darren sums it up better than I could:
“I used David for my first business. When that grew and led to a second business, I used him again. I'm using him again now to improve the original website and I'll be using him for whatever I do next.”
— Darren Frost, Director, Suffolk Doors and Windows Ltd & Suffolk Roofline
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